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Remembering the Gospel (1): Big Picture

November 24, 2009

“For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.” Romans 5:19

At a very basic level, when God looks at the world he only sees two men.  Although these two men lived generations apart, God envisions the world, ultimately, only through them.  One man, Adam, lived before the face of God, yet rebelled against God’s command and a curse was laid upon him and his offspring.  The bad news is that everyone born after him, all of mankind, inherit this curse.  This curse, apart from a divine remedy, not only leads to sin, suffering, and death in this life, it also leads to eternal destruction and separation from God after it.

And yet we see Jesus.  He also lived before the face of God, yet he lived in perfect obedience and submission to the will of his Father.  The significance of the person of Jesus Christ, is that he not only lived a perfect life before the face of God, he also lived a perfect life as the divine Son of God.  So then, when he was crucified on the cross for sins, he was a perfect sacrifice for the sins of many – a perfect Mediator between God and man because he was both fully God and fully man.  The good news is that all who repent and believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ can be saved from the curse of Adam and live in union with Christ, so that when God looks upon you he no longer sees the person of Adam and his curse, but Christ and his righteousness.  Praise God for his mercy and grace!

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11 Comments leave one →
  1. Theodore A. Jones permalink
    November 26, 2009 3:47 pm

    “It is NOT those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who OBEY the law who will be declared righteous.” Rom. 2:13
    What is this law he is talking about?

    • John Starke permalink*
      December 5, 2009 2:37 am

      He didn’t make an addition – he just fulfilled it. Obedience from the Christian comes from a regenerate heart. Disobedience is fruit of an unchanged heart. There is no gospel in your remarks. I pray you believe the Gospel and trust in Jesus.

    • John Starke permalink*
      December 5, 2009 2:55 am

      Read All of Romans – Read Romans 4:4-5; if you rely on your works, you will not gain grace. I think you are misreading Hebrews 7. Jesus is the new High Priest, bringing the New Covenant, since he is not in the line of Aaron, Melchizadeck. His payment for sins is final and eternal, while the priests had to daily pay for their sins and the people’s. So, yes, there is change – but no addition. Jesus fulfills the Law and its demands – but we are holy as he is holy because he has given us a new heart. If we do not grow in holiness, then that is a signpost of an unchanged heart, who still needs to repent and believe in the Gospel.

      Side note// Please use better etiquette on my blogsite. Thanks.

  2. jbstarke permalink*
    November 26, 2009 11:22 pm

    You are right! That’s why we need Jesus to obey the Law for us. Romans 4:1-10.

  3. Theodore A. Jones permalink
    December 5, 2009 12:37 am

    There is a problem with your idea. The law has been changed by God making an addition to it after Jesus’ crucifixion. It is this change that Jesus will NOT obey for you. You must obey God in a a certain particular Way to save yourself. Don’t be so glib.

  4. Theodore A. Jones permalink
    December 5, 2009 2:45 am

    “The law was added so that the trespass might increase.” Rom. 5:20 As I said. Don’t be so glib. See Heb. 7:12b

  5. Theodore A. Jones permalink
    December 5, 2009 1:13 pm

    What makes you think I have not not read Romans? But Peter does say that Paul’s writings are hard to understand. There are some other things which point out that your conjecture of Jesus’ crucifixion being a direct benefit is a conjecture that is an error.
    1. A small narrow gate into God’s kingdom has been perfected by Jesus’ crucifixion. But only a few ever find it and it is only a benefit for you by using it. Since I know you have no idea what this small narrow gate actually is I also know it is not possible for you to have had the faith to use it.
    2. If the crucifixion of Jesus has resolved all issues between you and God then it is not reasonable that you have ever needed any further knowledge of explaining this to you. Further, if it is only his crucifixion that is the benefit then the benefit is unilateral and there are no unsaved. But the crucifixion of Jesus is the sin of murder caused by bloodshed and no one can be a direct beneficiary of a sin. For even Jesus explains to you in the parable of the Tenants that God’s main resolve toward people is to enact revenge for his son having been killed. But you teach the exact opposite of what Jesus has taught, but I don’t.

  6. John Starke permalink*
    December 5, 2009 1:56 pm

    I wonder how you would explain the Gospel? Why did Jesus die? What did the cross accomplish? Are you Catholic/Protestant? Are you saying Jesus’ death was not part of the plan of God? For me, can you read Acts 2:22-28 and see if you think Jesus died according to the plan of God?

  7. Theodore A. Jones permalink
    December 5, 2009 6:29 pm

    It was expressly and fully necessary for Jesus to be crucified to perfect the Way of salvation. However the explanation you give of how the crucifixion of Jesus is a benefit is not correct for the concept of your salvific cannot be perfected. You are assuming that since you use the word gospel and talk about Jesus that the content of the idea you have expressed is the same as the content any apostle of Jesus has/would express relative to the word gospel. The fact of the matter is that your gospel is one hundred and eighty degrees out of sync with what Jesus’ apostles taught about his crucifixion.
    “It is NOT those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who OBEY the law who will be declared righteous.” is why they appeared to be drunk on the day of Pentecost. They fully understood the meaning of Rom. 2:13, you however, don’t have a clue.
    This is what Jesus says about all of the churches that are built upon your explanation of what his crucifixion has accomplished.
    “Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies.” and this table God has prepared before him sits right down in front of every “Christian” church house in existence. These facts should influence your mind to at least pause for a moment I should think. As for my affiliation to either RC or Protestant. All members of the church of the First Born, which Jesus is head of, are fully aware of the significance of Rom. 2:13. But since only a few ever find the small narrow gate into his church there are only a few in it. So it does not matter if one is Protestant or RC a member of the church of the First Born is neither.

  8. John Starke permalink*
    December 5, 2009 7:50 pm

    Theodore,
    You need to repent and believe that Jesus Christ is the only righteousness before the Father. You are picking verses (like Romans 2:13) out of its context. The argument of Paul is that no one can be saved by their works, for no one does good works – none! You or me. We need Jesus to stand before the Father for us on our behalf. If you rely on your good works, you will fail and face the wrath of God. Ephesians 2:1-10. It is not by works, but by faith! Romans 2:13, says exactly what you say, however, Paul says that no one can accomplish this. We need another righteousness. If you fail at one point in the Law, then you fail the entire Law. All have sinned and need a substitute to pay for their sins.

    Believe in the Gospel – Jesus died for our sins and we no longer bear them when we trust in his work on our behalf. You do not believe in the biblical Gospel, nor will your good works ever be good enough. Believe in the Gospel! I plead with you.

  9. Theodore A. Jones permalink
    December 6, 2009 7:34 pm

    This is God’s set purpose for each man.
    “And for Your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from EACH man too I will demand an accounting for the life of his fellow man.” Gen. 9:5 NIV.
    This verse is the oath of God, one of the immutable things mentioned in Hebrews, which has been perfected by Jesus’ crucifixion. Now. Do you think you are outside of the classification of EACH MAN TOO? Yes or No? The error of your belief and gospel is the false assumption that the death of Jesus is a direct benefit. His death, since it was caused by bloodshed, can only be of any benefit to any other man by having become an indirect benefit. The set requirement of God for each man too to give a direct account to God had to preexist Jesus’ crucifixion.
    Therefore the small narrow gate into the kingdom of God can only be the faith of confessing directly to God that you are sorry Jesus lost his life when he was crucified. For since the word Repent has been added to the law only, relative to the sin of Jesus’ crucifixion, not making this confession known to God as commanded is the deliberate disobedience of a command of God. Deliberately disobey the Lord’s command given through the apostles, which I am sure you have no intent of obeying, the sentence for disobeying this command is eternal death. You cannot escape the sentence of eternal death by not confessing directly to God of being truly sorry Jesus life was lost by him being crucified. The law was added so that that no man will be enabled to argue with God that God owes that man an exception. You need to renew your mind and not be so glib. Following the substitutionary atonement crowd is going to become a very hot way to go. Which is why God commands “Do not follow the crowd in doing evil.” There are only a few who find the small narrow gate into God’s kingdom and this fact is not understated.

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